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The nerve to Make Money as an Expert Ft. Kimberly Jarman

Have you ever hidden from the spotlight or opportunity because you were afraid that someone would judge you, reject you, or try to take advantage of you?

You aren’t alone. MOST women who are successful have to work through all of the fears that surface in order to truly go after what they want.

In today’s episode, you’ll hear me coach Kimberly Jarman.
Kimberly is a Mental Performance Coach on a mission to empower women to break free from self-imposed rules and step into their full potential. With a passion for helping women live life on their terms, Kimberly believes in dismantling the rules we live by and empowering her clients to create lives and careers that are meaningful and create impact.

Helping her clients stop getting in their own way, playing small, and settling for what is safe or what others want, by building the confidence and rejection resilience they need to make the changes they desire. Whether that is: going after the promotion, launching the business, building generational wealth, quitting the 9-5, whatever that thing is that is pulling on them telling them “I am meant for more…”

Armed with a Master’s degree in Counseling, Kimberly specializes in human potential from a unique perspective that integrates mindset, neuroscience, and biochemistry. Her holistic approach leverages the mind-body connection, biohacking techniques, and a powerful mindset to propel her clients toward achieving their goals faster, feeling better, and ultimately living life on their terms.

As a dedicated Mental Performance Coach, Kimberly is driven by a profound mission: to guide women in overcoming obstacles and embracing their limitless potential. Her dream is to witness more women occupying the top percentile, recognizing the transformative impact they can have as true world changers. Kimberly envisions a future where women confidently lead and leave an indelible mark on the world.

You can connect with Kim here:

Website – https://www.kimberlyjarmancoaching.com/
Podcast – https://www.kimberlyjarmancoaching.com/podcast/

Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kimberlyjarman

In this episode, we discuss:

  • What is rejection resilience and how do I get some of that?
  • Goldilocks syndrome and what we need to have a system of “just right” hormones to succeed with more ease
  • Why it’s normal for people not to like your innovation.  
  • How to use the 30/30/30 rule to get over yourself and start putting yourself out there!

If you're ready to challenge the ceilings above you and build your own table—one where you dictate the terms of your success, happiness, and fulfillment—then this episode is a must-listen!

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FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:

Susan Hyatt (00:00):
Is there something you wish you had the nerve to do? Welcome to, you've Got Nerve, the podcast that teaches you how to conquer your fears, upgrade your mindset, and get up the nerve to go after whatever you want. If you wish you had the guts to go all in on your goals, dreams, and desires, this show is for you. I'm master certified life coach Susan Hyatt, and I am so excited for you to join me on this journey. Hey, have you ever considered something called rejection resilience? Listen, if you are a woman in the world, I bet you have experienced fear of rejection, whether it's someone laughing at your ideas, turning down your proposals, or just not making the money that you want to make. I'm so excited to bring to, you've got Nerve coach Kimberly Jarman. Now Kim applied to be on the show and get coached about her inability to really put herself out there in bigger ways, and the things that came up might surprise you.

(01:18):
I am fully convinced that there are decoy reasons, meaning you probably have all kinds of thoughts and beliefs and decoy ideas that are covering up what's really going on with you. So if you're someone who hides in the background, doesn't put yourself out there fully, whether it's in relationships or your professional life, is this episode for you. So let me tell you a little bit about Kim. Kim Jarman is a mental performance coach. She's on a mission to empower women to break free from self-imposed roles and step into their full potential. She has a passion for helping women live on their own terms and she believes in dismantling the rules. We live by and empowering her clients to create lives and careers that are meaningful and create impact. She fits right? In other words. So she has a master's degree in counseling. She specializes in human potential and has developed a unique perspective that integrates mindset, neuroscience and biochemistry. So this holistic approach that leverages the mind body connection is what we're here to talk about today. She really wants to get this out into the world and she's got to get up the nerve to do it. So I can't wait for you to have a front row seat on this coaching session. Well, welcome to You've got Kimberly.

Kimberly Jarman (03:01):
Hey Susan.

Susan Hyatt (03:02):
Alright, so I am so excited to have you here. I met Kim at Finish Strong in Savannah and such a powerhouse coach like emanate such presence and leadership energy. And when Kim reached out that there was something that she was trying to get up the nerp to do and Megan sent me the application, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. So you are somebody who's pretty nervy, right? As most of my guests are, right? Getting up, all of us are always trying to get up the nerve to do or say something or own something. So what's pressing on your mind that you're trying to get up the nerve to do?

Kimberly Jarman (03:53):
So I am a coach and I have a unique coaching program and where I am kind of neuroscience based, so I'm a life coach, but I'm neuroscience based, so I kind of approach it from how the brain works, but then I also bring in this component where I test neurotransmitters and hormones to optimize that. I want to optimize human performance, specifically women's performance to level the playing field for us in corporate world, wealth, et cetera. What holds me back is I haven't created the success I want yet. So there's not what it doesn't matter, but I'm afraid to get my stuff out there afraid. Another coach that has a little bit probably bigger platform than I do is going to rip my IP stuff off and then I'm left with nothing.

Susan Hyatt (04:45):
Well, so let's look at that. So what are the ways, so there are plenty of things you could be doing to promote your ideas and your program and your methodology. What are some of the things you've caught yourself not doing because of this fear that somebody is going to rip off your ideas

Kimberly Jarman (05:09):
Playing in bigger arenas?

Susan Hyatt (05:12):
So what would that look like if you didn't have the fear at all? If I was somehow so powerful that I could bonk you on the head and you were just unable to worry anymore about somebody stealing your ideas and you felt safe, what would it look like to play in a bigger arena for you?

Kimberly Jarman (05:33):
I would probably reach out to people that have bigger platforms, like bigger podcast audiences like yourself and ask to be on that. I probably would get my shit together and get our TED talk prepared. I would be more confident and I would just show up in a bigger way.

Susan Hyatt (06:05):
Have you played around with what the title or the takeaway of your TED talk would be?

Kimberly Jarman (06:13):
No. I tell myself all the time You're not ready yet and you're not ready yet. Right.

Susan Hyatt (06:20):
Okay. So what would you imagine the first step of readiness might be?

Kimberly Jarman (06:28):
My coach brain gives me the coach answer. That's like, well, I just have to decide and think the thoughts.

Susan Hyatt (06:36):
What does the other side of you say? What do you really think?

Kimberly Jarman (06:40):
My brain is thoroughly convinced that when I make multiple six figures, then I'm ready. That is the all encompassing permission slip.

Susan Hyatt (06:52):
So there's a financial criteria that you have to hit before you would allow yourself to put together a TED talk?

Kimberly Jarman (07:02):
Yes. Because it feels like legitimacy. If you financially haven't hit these markers, then you're not legitimate and you are not expert enough to deserve those types of platforms.

Susan Hyatt (07:16):
So I wonder if we went to the official TED website and we looked at all of the different wonderful talks that have been given, do you think that all of those speakers have earned multiple six figures in one year?

Kimberly Jarman (07:41):
I mean, logically I doubt it.

Susan Hyatt (07:44):
What gets someone on a TED stage?

Kimberly Jarman (07:50):
My brain says that you're an expert, so therefore you have social proof that you're an expert. I don't think that's actually the accurate answer.

Susan Hyatt (08:00):
So I mean, I think you're kind of onto something that the premise of TED is ideas that matter. So what you have to have is a compelling idea that's backed by something. So in your mind, it's in our line of work, it would be so many hours testing out your methodology with clients irrelevant. I mean the money piece is irrelevant, although we would love to welcome payment for that. But it's interesting that in your mind, in order for you to go for it and formulate the idea, there's got to be expert status. But how does one get expert status?

Kimberly Jarman (08:54):
I mean, it's hours of doing it.

Susan Hyatt (08:58):
So it's like I just want to ask you if you notice the corner you've painted yourself into, because in order for you to put the TED idea together, you have to be an expert. But in order to be an expert, you have to put yourself out there.

(09:22):
I'm absolutely using this video clip. This is what we all do to ourselves. It's like, I want this thing and we have this list of things that need to happen first, and some of them are ridiculous, and some of them it's like, I bet there's tons of people listening to this right now that is nodding their head along with you. And then it's like, oh, but to go on TV or to go on a podcast or to put your ideas out there is how you build up enough hours for credibility to get the research that you need or to test the idea that you have so that you can then say, Hey, Ted, TEDx, Ted, Ted Women, whatever stage you're going for the Mel Robbins podcast. I mean, whoever, that's it. No one is going to say, but have you made multiple six figures from this? Have you? Let's see your tax return.

Kimberly Jarman (10:29):
Yeah, yeah. So I'm seeing what you're saying is the fear of someone ripping my IP off is just kind of, for lack of other terminology, it's an excuse that just keeps me from showing up because I think what the real fear is, I'm afraid of being wrong and I don't want to be wrong in public.

Susan Hyatt (10:53):
What would it look like to be wrong in public? And we can come back to that IP fear, but what do you mean that you don't want to be wrong?

Kimberly Jarman (11:08):
Well, what if, here's an example. So Dr. Carmen and I, she's my business partner. We had a podcast episode over a DD and a DH, ADHD from a naturopathic and mental performance coach perspective root cause, what causes it? And a lady left a review. She was like, I don't even know what I listened to. This is I'm an educated A-D-D-A-D-H ADHD parent. This is absolutely wrong. They're dangerous in what they're putting out there. And I worked through that. But it's like that type of stuff. Well, I am not the expert. I don't have a PhD in this, so there's room for me to be wrong.

Susan Hyatt (11:59):
And you bring up such a good and scary common belief that women have, is that right? Over the centuries, it's been very dangerous for us to be wrong in public. And so burning us at the stake insert any century now we have social media where people can go leave reviews and say they're wrong, don't listen to them, blah, blah, blah. So what if the price of expert status is people disagreeing with you publicly,

Kimberly Jarman (12:43):
But the trade off is that you help more people?

Susan Hyatt (12:50):
Yeah.

Kimberly Jarman (12:52):
Okay. So if the price to play, Hey, you want to help more people, you want to have expert status, you want to help more people that want to be helped and want your methodology to help them, but the price to play is that you are going to be wrong sometimes and you're going to have people, right? Well then it's worth, it's the the payment we have. I have to buy into workouts. There's always some buy-in always a

Susan Hyatt (13:22):
Cost. And the workout you love most CrossFit people publicly disagree with violently on the interwebs,

Kimberly Jarman (13:38):
Right?

Susan Hyatt (13:39):
And so if you think about it that way, something that you believe in is already getting its ass kicked on the regular

(13:50):
By public opinion. Some public opinion. There's a core group. I used to be a CrossFitter, I don't know if y'all know that, but people who love it fucking love it love. And that's what you want in your business and your work is that there will be people who think your methodology, even if it's not for everybody, even if all kinds of educators disagree with your thoughts about where it comes from, how to treat it, et cetera, et cetera, there will be people who are loyal and foaming at the mouth to talk about what it is that you're doing that's different. I don't know Kimberly if you know this, but I'm a huge Beyonce fan.

Kimberly Jarman (14:48):
Yes, I do.

Susan Hyatt (14:50):
And Beyonce has a new album out called Cowboy Carter and the way people are out on Beyonce's internet talking shit about her piece of work that I think is her best work date, we have to look at people like that. Even Beyonce has haters and people who think she's awful for the world, for the music industry stay in your lane. So you're going to have PhDs telling you to stay in your lane, but you're not Beyonce.

Kimberly Jarman (15:29):
I love that thought,

Susan Hyatt (15:30):
Right? What if Beyonce, listen to these people. What if any of us listen to these people who are stay in your lane. I'm so much more experienced. Well, guess what, you've hit on something that other people haven't thought of yet. It's called innovation Bitches. Right?

Kimberly Jarman (15:54):
And I'm the one in the arena. I'm the one that's willing to get in the arena and talk about it. If you PhD that's coming after me. If then why aren't you in the arena?

Susan Hyatt (16:05):
Yes. You're sitting in

Kimberly Jarman (16:07):
The stands judging me.

Susan Hyatt (16:08):
Yep, Micah, bitch, let's go. Right? I'm always like, listen, you don't have to agree. Of course not everyone I've learned over the years is going to agree, right? There's going to be, what's that old rule? 30% of people will love what you have to say and offer the world. 30% will be indifferent and 30% are going to hate it. Hate it. And we're just talking to the 30% that we're meant to serve. And so there's 30% of the people out there struggling with a variety of spectrum things that are going to stumble upon your work only if you're willing and say like, wow, she really saved me. From what people experience what you bring to the table in this arena, what problems are solved for them?

Kimberly Jarman (17:08):
It's like the empowerment. They understand, oh, I know why I feel and behave the way I do now, so now I can change it. And the emotional regulation that comes from this, so it's not always up and down. So it's like they feel in control of their lives for the first time. They feel empowered in their lives for the first time. They feel like, oh, I can create the life I want. I don't have to wait around for it. And I'm not at the mercy of the world. I'm no longer a victim of life I am in of my life and my destiny.

Susan Hyatt (17:51):
Hey, I'm not broken. And listen, I mean people are out here loving. I just got an email from this guy I subscribed to his newsletter probably back in 2007. Haven't heard from him for years, but he is recently diagnosed with A DHD and the assumptions that people are making with this diagnosis, and as someone who is a parent of a spicy person, I have been around these blocks with possible treatments, food, nutrition, exercise, you name it. And so I Ryan's an adult now, but he's somebody who would benefit from your work or I as a parent would have absolutely had I known about what you're talking about, devoured it. And so the people who are over here in the camp of this is the way who aren't open to what you have to say. Let them,

Kimberly Jarman (19:10):
Yeah. I like that way. You phrased it like the 30, 30, 30, and these are the 30, but this is the way. So they're not going to be open to any other and just let them have their, well, it's like, and we don't focus on a DD or a DH, adhd. That's just, we talk about neurotransmitters and that's part of the neurotransmitter pathway. But serotonin for the longest time, Susan, I am a very confident person where I was lacking, it was belief in myself and it was up and down and I didn't have rejection, resilience. And then we talk about serotonin is the self-confidence and the rejection, resilience chemical.

Susan Hyatt (19:56):
I love it.

Kimberly Jarman (19:57):
So when it's not, we have Goldilocks syndrome in our body, they have to be in this Goldilocks perfect thing. So if serotonin is too high, it creates an anxiety state in your body. You kind of feel anxious. If it's too low, you feel an anxiety state in your body. But if it's just right, it's so much easier for us to access self-confidence. And it's so much easier for us to have rejection, resilience. So someone that has that serotonin outside that window, someone says, well, I don't want to work with you, or I don't want to this or whatever has that rejection. It's like this devastating event. And that's what it used to be for me. It was so devastating when my G members would quit for me, and it took me so long to bounce back for it. And then when I started addressing these pieces, it's like, oh, that kind of sucks. I might feel negative about it for a few hours. And then you just bounce back, okay, how do I problem solve this? It's really hard to do that when serotonin isn't regulated.

Susan Hyatt (21:05):
I fucking love that. And I love how you coined it, rejection, resilience, which many of the listeners of this podcast are entrepreneurs. And so having rejection resilience is absolutely key to keeping going. I mean, the amount of messages I get on a daily basis from people who are podcast listeners or just newsletter readers or social media followers who were like, well, I was going to quit my business today, but I read that thing you wrote, and so this coining it. Let's boost your rejection resilience. And so you have a way of doing that. The world needs to hear about.

Kimberly Jarman (21:54):
Thank you. Because it was so frustrating for me. I was getting coached so much and it was like, I see my peers continually do better. I'm like, I'm doing the work. Why am I not there? And then we started addressing this whole piece and coming from the mental health side where I as a client struggled. I was like, oh, this is the secret. When we tackle both of this, the neurotransmitters and the thoughts game one at that point.

Susan Hyatt (22:26):
And so I have a question for you. So who are you to keep this from people?

Kimberly Jarman (22:36):
Such a good question.

Susan Hyatt (22:38):
I mean,

Kimberly Jarman (22:41):
Yeah, it's super selfish.

Susan Hyatt (22:44):
I'm always like whenever I'm up in my own bullshit, because trust me, I have plenty of things I coach and get coached on. The thing I always come back to is like Susan Hyatt, if you do not get over this, and I'll picture an ideal client or my former self, and it's like if you do not get over this, you're leaving that woman in the fetal position in her office or that woman that sits in the driveway and eats cupcakes and cries with her seat warmer on spoken from experience.

Kimberly Jarman (23:21):
Well, for me, even if I'd had me back in 2016, I wouldn't have ended up in the psych hospital for suicide.

Susan Hyatt (23:32):
Oh my gosh.

Kimberly Jarman (23:36):
If I'd had me and this stuff, it would've been a totally different experience 2016.

Susan Hyatt (23:44):
Wow, what a powerful path. And talk about rejection, resilience. I mean, you've gone from the psych hospital to now helping people get regulated. So when you think about that path is the worst thing that could happen is somebody try to rip off your ip?

Kimberly Jarman (24:14):
I mean, no, in context of that path, the psych hospital is by far the worst thing that's

Susan Hyatt (24:21):
Ever happened. I mean, I think we get worried. We get spooked as content creators, entrepreneurs by many things, taxes like health insurance, people ripping off our stuff. There's a top 10 tunes to being worried as an entrepreneur, and lots of us are constantly creating things. And it is possible that someone, it is a reality that someone could try to mimic, copy, rip off your concept, but what would they be missing?

Kimberly Jarman (25:06):
This is so good. They would good. My brain says two things. There's a right answer to this, but then they're missing the context of my journey and they're missing the brilliance of my business partner. You cannot replicate her and you cannot replicate me.

Susan Hyatt (25:27):
Exactly. And so they might try, okay. And if they do try that, we'll be prepared and know what to do. That's the thing. It's like there could be some trademarking that you could look into and absolutely there are some legal things you can do to protect your ip, and in the meantime, if somebody tries it, they try it and you shut 'em down. I mean, I can't tell you, I have early in business story of spending all this money on this website and it was beautiful and really well done. I want to say maybe it was my second website, so it might've been like 2010, and there used to be, I can't remember the name of it, but have you ever seen that service where you can go in and plug your URL in and it will basically search the internet and tell you if anybody is plagiarizing or using your words?

(26:44):
Have to look up the name of it. But I heard about it somewhere, probably a podcast. And just for funsies, I typed in my URL and there was this therapist in Chicago that had basically lifted my entire website, but changed the name and the headshot and that's it. The about me page was my personal story, and I was like, oh my god. So anyway, I reached out to her, my graphic designer reached out to her and she took it down, but it was a little crazy and sort of ripping the bandaid off on the internet of like, wow, there really are. That's why I'm like, there's probably somebody that might try it and we're not going to not serve people and make this money because we're scared of some woman in Chicago that's going to try it. Right?

Kimberly Jarman (27:40):
Right.

Susan Hyatt (27:42):
It'll just be a cease and desist letter, and that's all.

Kimberly Jarman (27:49):
I love that taking my power back.

Susan Hyatt (27:52):
Yeah,

Kimberly Jarman (27:53):
Solving.

Susan Hyatt (27:54):
Yeah, trusting yourself. Something I would love for you to think about is can I trust myself to cross that bridge when I get there?

Kimberly Jarman (28:03):
Yes.

Susan Hyatt (28:04):
And in the meantime, I'm going to create this expert status

Kimberly Jarman (28:11):
And there's going to be the 30% that the Karens that are going to want to argue with me. And that's totally fine.

Susan Hyatt (28:19):
The things people argue about online. I was telling my Yes group yesterday that I was joking when I was like, I'm a Beyonce fan, right? I don't know that anybody who knows me doesn't know that. I mean, it's kind of funny, but I was like, can you imagine? I was talking about being a day maker and saying, I don't know why some people want to yuck your yum, but it could be anything you're interested in, CrossFit, Beyonce running, it doesn't matter. There's going to be people who are like, oh my God, I hate that. And the amount of people who have taken the time to DM me to tell me how much they hate her or hate Cowboy Carter. And there's this one woman who literally haven't heard from her in a decade, and she pops into my IG dms to tell me how many times she listened to Cowboy Carter trying to like it and how much she hates it.

(29:25):
And this is in response to my post about how much I love it. And I thought about it for a minute, and I was like, one thing I do know about her is that she's a University of Georgia super fan, and I went to the University of Georgia for one quarter. I'm old enough to where it was on the quarter system and fucking hated it and transferred to an all girls school. But at any rate, I was like, can you imagine the next time UGA has a big win? Me coming into your dms to share with you how much I fucking hated my college experience at the University of Georgia and how the Bulldogs suck ass. Can you imagine me doing that? Yes or no? Because your motivation for trying to tell me how awful this musical genius is is not landing with me. But here's the thing. You're going to have this brilliant methodology out in the world serving people, and there will be people that will be like one star. She's awful. If I could leave negative star reviews for her, I would. And that my friend is unfortunately what happens on the internet.

Kimberly Jarman (30:44):
I love how you said it's the buy-in because it just feels like more in my control rather than something happening to me, one star and these people coming in, right? Yeah. It feels like something happening to me, which feels unsafe versus No, I'm intentionally choosing this because this is the buy-in I'm willing to pay.

Susan Hyatt (31:08):
Totally. So it's like one of my other favorite things to say in this regard is you have to be willing to look like a fool for what you believe in. You have to be willing to look silly and like a fool. And your words was wrong publicly. And so whenever I'm out here doing my shenanigans and I'm just laughing, I'm like, okay, I'm willing once again to put on this cape and look like an absolute idiot. I think it's funny. And there are going to be people who have entire Facebook groups about how much they hate it, and that's okay. That's okay, right? Because we're out here serving the 30%.

Kimberly Jarman (31:54):
Because if you're not willing to look like the fool, then that 30% doesn't get helped.

Susan Hyatt (32:00):
They don't get help, they don't get to. And also your shit's good when you're worried somebody's going to copy it. So listen, what I want to know is what three things can I challenge you to do to create your expert status once we get off this podcast?

Kimberly Jarman (32:25):
What three things? That's a great question. My brain automatically

Susan Hyatt (32:34):
Shut

Kimberly Jarman (32:34):
Us down to go into, I don't know, this is not safe.

Susan Hyatt (32:40):
Well, it could be things like, who are you willing to pitch? What kinds of ideas are you willing to put out there publicly and talk about,

Kimberly Jarman (32:55):
Okay, who I'm willing to pitch. Do I need to tell you who that is?

Susan Hyatt (33:02):
Yeah. Tell me.

Kimberly Jarman (33:04):
Mel Robbins.

Susan Hyatt (33:05):
Excellent. I feel like y'all would get along well,

Kimberly Jarman (33:15):
And I'm actually going to go look up whatever the process for Ted Talk and Yeah,

Susan Hyatt (33:25):
Absolutely do that. And listen, being willing to get on a public stage and talk about your big idea is so powerful. It will bring people to you for sure. It was one of the hardest things I ever did and was do a TEDx. It was a wonderful experience and also hard.

Kimberly Jarman (33:52):
Why was it hard?

Susan Hyatt (33:54):
It was hard in the sense of, I am a great speaker. I don't like to practice.

Kimberly Jarman (34:01):
I

Susan Hyatt (34:01):
Got you, and you cannot do a TED Talk without practicing over and over and over again. And it kicked my ass. I have so many stories, I have so many stories, but it made me better. So I do highly recommend for anybody listening, if you've got a big idea, do a TED Talk. Get your ass on that stage because you think these men are over here worried about this stuff.

Kimberly Jarman (34:28):
No,

Susan Hyatt (34:29):
No, no. They don't give a shit. And that's the thing is we have to get confident in our ability. Oh, somebody's going to rip me off. I'm going to handle that when I cross that bridge. My bridge right now is to create my content and speak the truth and pitch myself. So stay in the rep that you're in, the mile that you're in,

Kimberly Jarman (34:58):
The mile I'm in. Okay,

Susan Hyatt (35:00):
So tell the people. Of course we'll put it in the show notes, but how can they find out more about this methodology, more about you, follow up and harass you if you haven't put your stuff out there.

Kimberly Jarman (35:16):
Yeah, they can find me@kimberlyjarmancoaching.com. It's my website, and I love TikTok. So Kimberly Jarman on TikTok and Instagram at Kimberly Jarman coaching. And if we go to my website, you'll find Dr. Carmen and I's podcast where we talk. What's the

Susan Hyatt (35:37):
Name of your podcast?

Kimberly Jarman (35:39):
Thrive and Aligned Healing.

Susan Hyatt (35:42):
All right. Well, thank you so much for being vulnerable.

Kimberly Jarman (35:46):
Thanks for having me.

Susan Hyatt (35:51):
All right. I bet you have a lot to think about in terms of the Goldilocks syndrome, rejection, resilience, and where you might be keeping yourself from really putting yourself out there because of fears that someone's not going to like it. Do I have some remedies for you? If you're listening to this, you still have time to sign up for a couple of things that could be life-changing for you. One is My Beyond Business Mastermind. Now I have two spots left, and we still have a month before we start classes. We start on May 8th. Classes are on Wednesdays at 12 noon. There's a weekend retreat happening in Savannah, Georgia in July, and so much more. So why don't you click the link in the show notes, get your application in, and let's have a quick chat to see if it's a good fit for you. I also have something coming up called the Profit from Property Challenge.

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Now, this is happening April 29th through May 3rd, and Scott Hyatt and I are doing a very special training for two hours a day for five days, so that you know everything you need to know about how to become an investor in real estate. And that's not all. We also have a private podcast called Women Invested. We're going to put the link in the show notes so that you can sign up, opt in to listen in on Scott and I deliver six episodes of Juicy Investor related content. Thanks for listening. I appreciate you being part of my world, and I hope to see you at an event soon.

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