Susan Hyatt (00:00):
Is there something you wish you had the nerve to do? Welcome to, you've Got Nerve, the podcast that teaches you how to conquer your fears, upgrade your mindset, and get up the nerve to go after whatever you want. If you wish you had the guts to go all in on your goals, dreams, and desires, this show is for you. I'm master certified life coach Susan Hyatt, and I am so excited for you to join me on this journey.

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Oh, hey, I'm joined in today's episode by the amazing Tarn Tripp. Tarn is a woman on a journey to release shame that's been embedded into our lives and our communities. From capitalism, diet, culture, organized religion, and a patriarchal society, women often find themselves tangled up in society's expectations of their bodies. This is the entire premise of my work with Bear. Our bodies become a canvas for judgment, criticism, and shame. And we have to keep challenging these narratives and pushing back on the patriarchy to reclaim our power. So Taran and I discuss her personal journey of body confidence and how she's transforming that confidence to become a vocal advocate for women and girls across the world. We also dive into how Terrance's half naked body on the Internet caught my eye and not in the way that you think her transformation to allyship. Looking around at systems of support and finding connection, learning how to take up more space and why, and how women are wired for pleasure. This is an incredible episode that I think will help you unravel the threads of diet culture. So let's get into it. Welcome to, you've got Nerve Taran.

Tarin Tripp (01:54):
Hi, how are you? Hi.

Susan Hyatt (01:56):
So listen, for those of you tuning in, um, I strong armed Taryn into being on the podcast. Taryn was just an unsuspecting, fabulous person on the internet, um, living her her best life and, uh, Taryn is part of life of Yes. And, um, what was it, Taryn? That caught my eye. What was the post about?

Tarin Tripp (02:24):
Um, well it was my half naked body is what caught your eye. <laugh>.

Susan Hyatt (02:32):
Stop the scroll.

Tarin Tripp (02:33):
<laugh>. So yeah, I, I had just been on a work trip and I work with lots of women, primary room women, and I love these women. Um, and we have, I think, a very good open relationship, but we were on an in-person meeting and during the in-person meeting I noticed how much the people I was around, particularly the women excu and we, so I should say I work in a virtual environment. So we are all at home doing things. And then we were here in person, uh, at our home office. And what I noticed was how much these women made excuses or comments, uh, about their bodies, you know, about how much space they took up, um, and how, you know, I'm gonna finish this lunch cuz I'm fat. You know, they would say these things and put, you know, qualifiers on why they wanted to enjoy their work lunch that was being paid for by work, you know? Right, right. Um, and I just really, really sat with me. And so when I came home, I was like, you know what? I'm, no, I'm gonna just start posting pictures of my body unapologetically and so that people who have bodies don't have to like, apologize because your arms look a certain way or because you literally take up more physical space than somebody else. Um, it just really struck me at how unnecessary it was.

Susan Hyatt (03:55):
Right. I, I think the unnecessary word is so good there. And so, so you came home and you were like, okay, in rebellion. Um, yeah. You were like, let me just post pictures of, of myself and people can take away from that what they will. Yeah. And so I saw it, and of course with the work that I do, um, with Bear, I thought, wow, if I could get, I mean, that's my goal is to get more and more women feeling comfortable just being in their bodies and just having a body and not like just having a body, putting labels or qualifiers on it or like, oh, I can only eat this if I say these things or, um, or not eat this if I say these things. And so what has happened as a result? So the first post that you put up, let's just, we'll put links in the show notes, but just describe for, for people what you put up and what you said.

Tarin Tripp (04:55):
Yeah, so I, I po I was, I had just finished a yoga workout and I was hot and sweaty, uh, and I was in my sports bra, um, and I was thinking about this and I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna, like, I'm just putting it out there. And I, I just really said, this is me. Like this is my body I'm showing up in, in all of it. Um, and you could see, you know, my back rolls and my sports bra, the way it fit, and you could see my large arms in the posts and, and some of that was really purposeful and some of the PO photos I've posted since then, um, I've really made sure that you could see some of the parts that like other people might consider unflattering mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, and I, I really have just been talking about how so many of these things are told to us by the systems in which we are steeped in mm-hmm.

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<affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, you know, the cultures and the colonization, which we're steeped in and that I actually, I I actually love my, my arms are big. They are, and I kind of love them though, because there's a long family history of women. We have large arms in our family and it's actually a thing that has brought us all together. And so it's, when I think about my body and I think about my arms, I actually think about all of the strong women in my family, and I think of all of, all of my history, um, through all of the mothers and women and my cousins and my sister and all of these people who are incredibly important to me. Um, and yet, you know, the world would want me to cover them because they don't look such a way, but it's actually a part of me and my family that I'm incredibly proud of. Um, it's so, it's

Susan Hyatt (06:44):
So beautiful when you're able to think of it this way instead of the way culture, like you're saying, the way we've been steeped in this culture to believe that small arms, or, I mean, it's ever changing, like sculpted arms or, you know, what have you mm-hmm. <affirmative>, it's interesting arms. Um, you could take any body part, right. Um, but arms, so gosh, it would've been 12 or 14 years ago. I was real briefly into CrossFit and, um, I went for a month to Thailand with my son Ryan, and he was taking, um, Mui Thai quote unquote from the Masters <laugh>. And, um, there was a CrossFit gym, like right down the, the street. And it was really interesting because I went there so that he could study Mui Thai. And so I was doing CrossFit, which is my usual workout, and the hotel that I rented for us for the month, I didn't know this until I got there, but like it really catered to, um, Americans, Canadians, um, Europeans coming to Thailand to, to do like diet vacations.

Tarin Tripp (08:05):
Oh my goodness.

Susan Hyatt (08:06):
And I had me of all people being in the middle of all these people who were there to like get skinny and men included. And, um, I was by the pool one day and there was a group of men. And I, one of the things I did enjoy about CrossFit was that I felt very strong doing it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, there are a lot of reasons why I'm not into it now, but I, I, for the first time in my life was lifting heavier weights. Yeah.

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And so when you lift heavier weights, you, your muscles get larger mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And there was a guy by the pool with this group, and they were talking about cro, the CrossFit gym and women doing CrossFit in particular. And he said something like, oh, CrossFit, where, um, your women can turn into men. Oh, geez. So it was this really disgusting, misogynistic gendered mm-hmm. <affirmative> sort of stereotypical joke. And, you know, of course I had to say something, but it was interesting. Right. <laugh>, like when you think about arms in particular, my, my arms were the most muscular they had ever been, and I loved them. Yeah. And they were still a problem because it didn't match this group of men's, the male gaze. Yep. Right. And what we're trained to aspire to. Yes. So my question though is have you always felt this way? How did you get to a place where you feel this way?

Tarin Tripp (09:34):
Yeah. You know, that's actually really interesting question. And in, um, the work that I'm starting to do, I'm, I'm dissecting a lot of that mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so I actually have been very body confident for most of my life. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I don't know how, or understand how I have escaped a lot of, um, the things because I see it so clearly, and even I, I've got two, two young girls and my oldest is eight. And even having me as a mother who is very body positive and body confident, I would, you know, those things still, they're, they're at her at eight. Yeah. She is already coming home and seeing these things and talking, and we're already having conversations and doing mirror work where we're looking at our bodies and saying nice kind things about our bodies together. Wow. Um, but I think what I, what is transforming in me is how vocal I am, because I see that people need allyship mm-hmm. <affirmative>, right? Yeah. And so I, I think I was very into sports, my body, I always looked at my body very much like a utility. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, because I was very athletic. And so I had big, big arms because I was doing these athletic things. I was, uh, I was a cheerleader and a swimmer, and I was a long distance swimmer. So like, they propelled me through the water, you know? Um, I had strong legs because in college I was a goalie for water polo. And so like, I could tread water, holy shit,

Susan Hyatt (11:12):
<laugh>, these are all things that I would be like literally the worst at <laugh>. I'm like, wow, okay, carry

Tarin Tripp (11:18):
On. Right. So I had a very utilitarian look at my body and there was a reason for why it was like this mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, and transitioning from being athletic to then, you know, where, and I'm not gonna say I'm not athletic, but not in that same way, you know, it was a little bit of a transition to go, okay, what is my body using? What are, what is it here for? Like, what are these big arms here for now? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I definitely had to have a journey into finding that connection. So talking about how it represents my mother and, and the women in my line, that is more of the journey that I've had to go on, is really looking into my roots and my, my heritage and my lineage of where did my body come from mm-hmm. <affirmative> and how can I appreciate that, you know, um, I u I used to have a gap in my teeth and it was one of the things my daughters have gaps.

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And, and looking at that where a lot of times, once again, it's a cos cosmetic thing that a lot of people would get fixed because it's not strong, you know, it's not looked at as Right. You know, pretty or, um, the beauty standard. But for my children, I've explained to them how their aunts have gaps and you know, that's something that happens and they love their gap. And I, yeah. When we go to the dentist, the dentist talks about it. I check in with them and they're like, no, I wanna be like my family. Mm-hmm. And so I think when we can connect to our systems that support us mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and maybe that's not your, you know, your family of origin, but looking around at systems that support and find connection, we can then find value, you know, and understand where some of these things came from. And I think there's a lot of power in that.

Susan Hyatt (12:55):
There's so much power in that. And just listening to you talk about your daughter who's eight, eight is the average age, um, that a girl starts dieting. And you're right, it's already coming at her. Um mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And can everybody listening, imagine how your life might have been different had you had a mother who was body confident enough to do mirror work with you? <laugh> my god. Amazing. Like, you know, my mother was a fantastic mother, but she was steeped in diet culture. I mean, sh she's 80 mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but she was like, you know,

Tarin Tripp (13:32):
My mom too, you

Susan Hyatt (13:33):
Know, weight Watchers mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, Jenny Craig, um, you know, Jane Fonda. Yeah. Like all of those things. Oh

Tarin Tripp (13:42):
Yeah. And my mom was a cereal dieter. Absolutely.

Susan Hyatt (13:46):
So that is so interesting because often the women that I work with on becoming body neutral or body positive, um, body confident, they are unwinding not just culture at large, but stuff they learned from family of origin. And your mother was a cereal dieter, but you didn't pick it up.

Tarin Tripp (14:06):
So this is very interesting and it almost irks me to say this, um, because I <laugh>, I think it was because of my dad. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, so, okay. And, and my dad constantly was telling all of his children. Um, but I think particularly he's got, we, I've got, uh, three siblings, there's four of us total, one boy, three girls, and all of us girls are, you know, our shit is on fire. We, we all think that we are just amazing, the bomb, right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and I think it's because he told us constantly, um, he used to say things like, you didn't get those big shoulders for nothing. You know, wow. You're gonna out there and you're, you're gonna carry the world. That's why you have them. You know? And he used to say like, wow, you don't have those strong legs for nothing.

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Get out there and, and do that. Or, you know, he, he would say things like that or, you know, the world is yours, go mm-hmm. <affirmative>, like get, and, and he really, um, he really showed deep love and cheerleading for me mm-hmm. <affirmative>, despite what, like, it was never about what I looked about. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, it was never, now there were definitely things, you know, he used to apologize by going to get ice cream or mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, a treat. So there was definitely some of that food stuff that came up with our relationship. But I think, um, you know, I, when I think about the messaging that I got that made me feel confident, it did come from my father and him, him saying those things to me. And I, when I think about that, those are some messages that really stick to me. And he would, you know, he would say, you didn't get those strong arms cuz you couldn't, you know, you gotta go lift, gotta do hard work, you know? And so he always would, wow. Those were the messages he would say. And so I know those are things that I'm doing with my kids and I'm like, okay, well let's look at this practically, you know, what, what you have and what you can do and, um, you know, what suits you.

Susan Hyatt (16:10):
Listen, I think that ki I love these kinds of stories because it's an example of how, okay, you can be in a family where one parent is giving a, a really harmful message or example, um, because of culture at large. And then you have another family member who's able to like, mitigate that mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I think that there are plenty of people listening who are like, I don't know where I got it. You know, my, my family was very supportive. Well, culture, advertising, you know, all of those things. But it's, it's the, the message, the overwhelming message for girls and women is be small. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> be as small as possible with your voice, with your body, and don't take up space. And so the photo series that you're doing is like, Hey, I'm body confident I'm in a larger body Yep. And was I take

Tarin Tripp (17:10):
Up space. Yeah. Right. And that, and that's been my, so take up space has been my hashtag is like, take up space and, and I mean that Yeah. One with your voice, but also like, literally that was one of the messages from that week in the office with my coworkers was like, they were, they were apologizing about the space they took up. Oh, I'm sorry. I Oh, oh, oh. And I, I just, yeah. I take up space. I require more space mm-hmm. <affirmative> and that that is because of my, my confidence, my voice, the things, also my body, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And, and that's okay. That's totally okay. Um, and definitely, you know, we talked a lot about arms, the arms post is what I've gotten the most feedback on mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, I, I'm trying to figure out how to get a good neck post, cuz I think that's also one that <laugh>. Ooh. Yeah.

Susan Hyatt (17:58):
I, I mean honestly you could pick anything, but yes. Necks mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, asses.

Tarin Tripp (18:05):
Yeah. Stomachs. Yeah. Boom. Yeah. I've also been trying to get a good shot of my pooch, you know? Yeah. I've had a C-section. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and so it, you know, I've got a good pooch going on and, um, so I am, I'm really just, and, and there is something really honestly freeing about it, you know? Mm-hmm. I, I, in, in healing and cathartic for me mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, of really putting this stuff out here. And, you know, I, I haven't taken any in a couple of weeks we had a, you know, it was the end of school. It was kind of a wild, wild few weeks for us. But I, I've really been thinking about what else, what, what are the things of my body, um, that I, I wanna showcase and put out there because when you think about pooches, right?

Susan Hyatt (18:50):
<laugh>, yeah.

Tarin Tripp (18:51):
These are a part of our body that are, are near our, our sensual area, our vaginas, our labus, these where we have all these nerve endings, but when people might touch them, we would shy away Yeah. And say, oh, don't touch. So then that blocks access to pleasure mm-hmm. <affirmative>, right. You know, that blocks access and, and these are areas that are, you know, that are sensitive. And, and so thinking about how we can feel confident about some of these areas in a body and how they can lead to having greater pleasure in our life. You know, if we're not worried about whoever our partners are touching our stomachs.

Susan Hyatt (19:31):
Right.

Tarin Tripp (19:31):
You know, and if we're worrying about that, we're not in the moment having pleasure and enjoying, you know, these, this sensu touch that we want to enjoy. And, you know, um, I just, I, that's really important to me is for us not to feel shame over our body so we can access more pleasure in our lives.

Susan Hyatt (19:51):
I love it. I love it so much because the pooch. Absolutely. Like, it's, it's interesting because I did an interview, um, I think it might have been a webinar interview, but it was about perimenopause and menopause with, uh, Dr. Anna Garrett mm-hmm. <affirmative>, and we were talking about, um, midlife and gaining weight in your midsection and how useful that is. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, because she, from a physician's perspective, it's like that happens for a reason. So if you start like, you know, having surgery and like trying to get rid of it as much as possible as you age, it becomes a problem. It's a protection for certain things. There's fat storage that needs to happen. Um, and it's just so interesting how our bodies know exactly what to do and how to show up. And we have all of these judgments around it mm-hmm. <affirmative> that are made up mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And it's so interesting. It would be so fun to do like a pooch take up space pooch challenge or something, whereas I love that. Show me your pooch, because it's just like, it is freeing to embrace it because it's like, you know, I spent so much of my younger years sucking it in mm-hmm. <affirmative> and trying to hide it. Yep. And don't even get me started on shapewear. Um,

Tarin Tripp (21:11):
<laugh>. Right. <laugh>,

Susan Hyatt (21:12):
It, it just infuriates me because it's the, the binding Yes. That happens. Yes. For what?

Tarin Tripp (21:26):
Yes.

Susan Hyatt (21:27):
It's like I have actual rolls in cellulite. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> get over

Tarin Tripp (21:32):
It. Right. Absolutely. Uh, the last time I wore shapewear, I had a legit panic attack because I felt like I couldn't breathe. Oh my God. And it, it led to an actual, like, medical thing. And then I took off like, you know, as I was like stripping out of things and I was like, oh, like almost immediately took the shapewear off and I was like, oh, oh, I feel better already. Like, um, so yeah, it is. And it is, it's because we're trying to make ourselves smaller and, and not show up as we are. Um, I am here for a pooch challenge. Uh, the picture that I'm actually working on is a picture that I, I would, I'm working with my husband on to take a picture somehow to show my pooch and I want his hand on it. Ooh.

Susan Hyatt (22:17):
Yes.

Tarin Tripp (22:20):
And somehow, you know, squeezing it something I really, I wanna show it. And it's, it's real, it's glory. Um, and really to highlight about our bodies showing up in places where we're also trying to have pleasure, because that, that is, you know, if you're constantly thinking about how your body looks while you're trying to have an intimate moment with a partner, you're, it's just not gonna happen. You're, you're not present in the moment. You are somewhere else in your head. Um, and you, you don't enjoy the pleasure as much.

Susan Hyatt (22:56):
It's true. And I'm just reminded of, do you remember, you're a little bit younger than I am, so you may not, but did you ever watch the Oprah Show when she did? She might have done multiple episodes, but there were at least two episodes where the premise was, um, here's this woman, and honestly, this woman was medium sized mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but here's this quote unquote plus size woman who's confident, who has men throwing themselves at her feet. Yeah. How does she do it? Right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, this was the premise, like, how does someone like this?

Tarin Tripp (23:37):
Oh gosh. <laugh>

Susan Hyatt (23:38):
Do it. And I was young. I mean, I was like probably 12, 13, 14 years old watching it. Um, and, you know, this beautiful medium sized woman is just basically like, you know, I'm confident, I think I look good. Right. And the audience is like, you know, everyone is this even possible? And then, and then, and so then they had a panel of men who were very attracted to this woman, and they were like, what is it? And they were saying things like, she's not preoccupied. Like she's not worried mm-hmm. <affirmative> about, you know, all of this boring shit she'll eat on a date and like, be in

Tarin Tripp (24:24):
Inside, be present. She'll be

Susan Hyatt (24:26):
Present.

Tarin Tripp (24:26):
Right. Be

Susan Hyatt (24:27):
Fully present. Right. Exactly what you're saying. And I just remember even as a young person being like, wow, like this is really insulting. Like, how do these producers like say, hey, okay, so the show idea is you're really completely unattractive and undesirable. <laugh>. Right. <laugh>, but you're, but you're hoodwinking these men and we wanna know your secrets. Right, right.

Tarin Tripp (24:50):
I think that goes to show how ingrained Yes. Because I'm sure there was only a small majority of people who saw it that way. I imagine there was a lot of people who was like, oh wow, really? Yes. That's, you know, and, and really took it as this informational thing. And I think that's why, I mean, it's so important to talk about this to everybody and and truly understanding what being present in our lives means. And when we are present and not preoccupied with all of the things the systems and and structures have programmed us to be occupied with, we do begin to access things like, I mean, you, you know, like being more confident and what thing, when you're more confident, what things are then drawn to you? What energy are you putting out? Um, and I'll tell you, I've never had a shortage of interest in me, male or female. I bet

Susan Hyatt (25:48):
Not. I bet not <laugh>,

Tarin Tripp (25:50):
You know, and so, and I've always been in a large body. I've always had a large body. I've always been, um, you know, I, I can't, I think there was maybe one time in my life where I was a size 14 mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but other than that I've been, uh, size 16, uh, is on my, when I'm having my quote unquote skinny days mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, you know, otherwise I am ro uh, you know, size 16 is when I'm in my skinny days. Otherwise, you know, I'm rocking 22, 20 fours typically mm-hmm. <affirmative> mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and I'm, I'm okay with that. I feel good. I, you know, I move my body for, for pleasure. Most of what I do is around pleasure. That is really important to me. And that's part of the work and the journey that I'm going on, is helping people access pleasure, um, in their daily lives.

Susan Hyatt (26:40):
Yeah. I mean, and I think that you, you just said all the things. It's, it's, it's, um, it's part of my life's work to help people do business through pleasure, you know, take care of their bodies through pleasure. Yes. And you know, I, if we are, if girls and women are spending their capacity using up their capacity to shrink Yes. We're never, we're never going to solve the problems of the world Yes. That we need to solve. Right. So we need all of that capacity Yes. To like smash these systems. Yes. And a way to smash it is to show up in the way that you're showing up, which is why I was like, Hey, <laugh>, I need to, I need you to come on. You've got nerve, because you've got the nerve to say, I'm body confident. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, look at my arms, look at my pooch. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> like, now what?

Tarin Tripp (27:32):
Yep. You know, it is what it is. And, and one thing I do wanna say, and I I think one of the things I really appreciate about your work is when we talk about pleasure, right? And even if you look up the definition of pleasure in the dictionary, you see things likelier of fluorous, that's not the right, um, oh,

Susan Hyatt (27:54):
Frivolous.

Tarin Tripp (27:54):
Thank you. Frivolous. I'm like, this is not, so when you look up the word of, uh, you know, pleasure, it, it, it even, it makes it seem like it's flippant or not necessary mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But truly, when you really think about pleasure, pleasure, one is deeply rooted in consent. Hmm. And I think that's such an important thing. It's about consent for yourself. What feels good to me? Do I want this yes or no? What is my preference? Yes or no? And when we start understanding the things that feel pleasurable to us, they are things that we consent to or do not consent to. And so it starts with very small things. It, it is important things that lead us to big things in business and, and it's, or, or in our lives, serious decisions. You know, what, what am I going to invest in? What, you know, it, it is not just, oh, you know, let me get out here and live my best life, which it is. Right. That's the result. Right. Right. But it's not just about having fun and, and it's truly about deeply rooted in consent. And I think that's the thing that I wish people understood more is when we are clear about the things we want and feel good to us, um, it will stop us from maybe getting into situations that maybe we're like, oh, we're just here for a good time. And it turns out when you look back, you're like, Ooh, maybe that wasn't what I wanted. Mm-hmm.

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<affirmative>. But when we get clear about the things we want and don't want, it comes very easy to say no to the things that don't align with what bring us pleasure.

Susan Hyatt (29:30):
I fucking love that <laugh>. It, it is absolutely about consent. And it is, it is some of the deepest work, uh, I think a woman will do. Yeah. Because we're taught to our own pleasure. Yes. And we're wired for pleasure.

Tarin Tripp (29:43):
We're wired for pleasure. Do you know that when we breathe all of the muscles in our groin area, in our, our labia and around our cl um, and our pelvic floor all contract up and down our pelvic floor contracts up and down. So even the act of breathing engages our pleasure center in our body.

Susan Hyatt (30:02):
Wow. I did not know that.

Tarin Tripp (30:05):
Yes. When you exhale at the end of your exhale, your pelvic floor raises naturally. Um, and in yoga right, though, that's like a, a lock, uh, one of the locks that you do in yoga, all of that raises, that's all of your pleasure center. So even when we breathe our life force in, we engage our ple pleasure center of our body. Wow. We're wired for pleasure. Literally. We're

Susan Hyatt (30:26):
Wired for pleasure. And we're gonna all do the pooch challenge.

Tarin Tripp (30:30):
Yes. <laugh>. I'm here for it. Let me, let me get, let me get on this photo. Get <laugh>.

Susan Hyatt (30:36):
Well, so Taryn, how can people best interact with you?

Tarin Tripp (30:41):
Yeah, so I am, uh, really, I am just getting started in my learning journey. And so I have a website, it's taryn tripp.com, t a r i n t r i p p.com. And there it's pretty simple. Um, and what you're gonna do, if you wanna join my mailing list for right now, join on, and I'm doing, um, a newsletter where I am discussing the things that I'm learning on my journey to becoming a somatic sex educator, where my work will be, uh, rooted in consent and pleasure, um, conscious erotic touch, where we learn about how to accept touch and, and accept pleasure from touch. And so, um, join my, my, my mailing list, my emailing list, um, and I am doing videos. You also can follow me of course, on Instagram and Facebook. But the best thing is gonna be to get on my, uh, my email list where I can, um, talk about what I'm learning, uh, as I'm journeying to becoming a practicing somatic sex educator.

Susan Hyatt (31:46):
Wow. I'm so excited. I'm gonna join your list immediately.

Tarin Tripp (31:50):
Thank you. Yes, please do. Please do. And, um, and I hope to be by September is my goal to be really offering, um, touch sessions and sessions with people. Um, we all a council can work with couples, let be certified to work with couples. So if you want to, um, learn how to navigate touch with a partner, we can do that. Um, and I, I really am very, very interested in teaching consent classes for middle-aged children is something I'm really, really important to me because it all starts with consent. And so teaching children consent and understanding how they can navigate consent, they then grow up to be adults who are, have healthier boundaries, um, and respect other people's boundaries.

Susan Hyatt (32:38):
Right. I love it. It's so needed and I so appreciate you taking time to come on the show. Thank you for having me. It took nerve <laugh>. It took nerve. You've got nerve.

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